👏 I'm grateful to read about this change and can't wait to re-up my sub as soon as you're on a new platform, even if the price is higher. Thanks Ryan, and this is in my GD hall of fame lines now:
"Meanwhile, one of the best conversion methods for me has been gift subscriptions because, surprise surprise, my own readership is much better at recommending my newsletter than the divorced too-racist-for-LinkedIn losers sharing graphs about phrenology on Substack’s app"
I just hope wherever you take this has an audio reader feature because I've basically been experiencing Garbage Day as a podcast hosted by a feminine robot for a while now
It has come to my attention that followers of Communism, a political philosophy that killed even more people than the evil, abhorrent Nazis, publish here on Substack, and on Twitter, Facebook, and other platforms I use. And I am going to keep using those platforms anyway, because there is great value in a hands-off approach to content moderation.
Glad you are making the move. I have to say that what ameliorated Casey Newton at Platformer's concerns was pretty weak sauce, once the details surfaced.
The moment they bolted on the think ship of social media (feed, the app, notes, and following instead of subscribing) they went from being infrastructure to a platform, and this was the going to happen sooner or later.
I will add that the founders/leaders have been just awful. They really need to hire a comms team that handles things like this, and to LISTEN to them, instead of relying on their infallible libertarian instincts.
One possible reason for the lack of paid subs coming via the app is that (at least on iOS) you can’t actually manage your subscriptions in the app. 🤦🏻♂️ Presumably to avoid Apple’s cut, but it’s still friction that’s having a fair impact.
Hmm this is all very interesting. I read substack most days and I don’t see a single nazi-supporting publication. I have an account on X and my feed is moderated by me. I follow and see what I’m interested in. I have a TikTok account and what I watch and engage with is what I’m shown. Am I doing something wrong here? Or should people be self-moderating their SM effectively?
I work with so many different people in a single year, closely travelling together for long periods etc and sometimes I find out they hold views that would get them ‘cancelled’ yet I still have to share space with them and can’t escape being exposed to words they say that I don’t agree with. That’s real life. When I can choose I don’t associate with them, when I can’t I must.
I don’t understand why people think they should be able to control what other people are in heart and mind. And in low key activities like writing words. (As opposed to harmful physical acts for which we have laws and police to ‘moderate’).
What do people want? To control other people to a level that represents their own values? What if we just can’t agree?
Just ignore the ‘Nazi’ bastards, like I do when I have to sit next to one.
The problem about moderation is that all moderation has already been weaponized as a powerful censorship propaganda machine that killed millions by denying access to COVID and post-vaccine cures
So, after the global stealth coup, we are in a point that no moderation is advisable. At most, a small banner saying that the content is questionable and why, like X.com is trying.
Substack, with Gab.com and few others, are the only platforms for really free speech (X uses shadow banning)
Let's fight for Substack to remain free! I'm anti-Nazi but a realist!
Beware of what you ask for, because you are going to get it.
For example, anyone questioning the brutal murder of thousands of Palestine children by Israeli bombing is being classified as Nazi by mainstream social media:
I'll admit that I love the substack app because it lets me read longform newsletters without the distraction of every other email I have to respond to (I use substack on an iPad that I don't have an email app installed on). No clue if there's a way to do that with Ghost or TinyLetter or GoblinDong or whatever people are moving to.
It's so funny that I just downloaded the app after being content with reading emails for a couple months. The only reason was to share an article and they don't even have a copy link. I have spent months, and days, agonizing over deleting apps that I've used for years because it is worse for me than good. I went through with it and I feel so good about it. It is so good for me and I don't give a f about the loss of networking, marketing opportunities, etc. I'm sick of a lot of shirt and I'm just refusing. All yalls can have it. I'm so done. I just want to read quality, interesting stuff. I show up hoping there's a better situation and I see the crap that I don't want to see. No, I can't replace my social media with social media. I'm waiting for a big change. Less crap, less creep, more something I'm too tired to articulate at the moment.
> My man, you’re not supposed to acknowledge actual Nazis are using your product.
This is such a strange absence of an argument masquerading as a point. Presumably Nazis use lots of products. Like I assume they use toothpaste. And Google. What power does acknowledging this have?
I think the major problem with all the AI hardware we’re seeing so far is that for some reason it’s all primarily voice controlled and I’m sorry if I’m on the subway I’m not walky-talking into my game boy asking it to do something for me (and I sure as shit don’t trust whatever Sharper Image level interaction Humane’s got going on)
👏 I'm grateful to read about this change and can't wait to re-up my sub as soon as you're on a new platform, even if the price is higher. Thanks Ryan, and this is in my GD hall of fame lines now:
"Meanwhile, one of the best conversion methods for me has been gift subscriptions because, surprise surprise, my own readership is much better at recommending my newsletter than the divorced too-racist-for-LinkedIn losers sharing graphs about phrenology on Substack’s app"
No survivors found from that one.
Read this before you go: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/platformers-reporting-on-substacks
I just hope wherever you take this has an audio reader feature because I've basically been experiencing Garbage Day as a podcast hosted by a feminine robot for a while now
Freddie's got the correct perspective on this:
https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/these-rules-about-platforming-nazis?publication_id=295937&post_id=140246559&isFreemail=true&r=4vzpd
There is going to be some absolutely cursed gibberish in here.
As you mentioned, Substack leadership is stupid as dirt. Easiest thing in the world to see coming without the hubris and grievance in the way.
It has come to my attention that followers of Communism, a political philosophy that killed even more people than the evil, abhorrent Nazis, publish here on Substack, and on Twitter, Facebook, and other platforms I use. And I am going to keep using those platforms anyway, because there is great value in a hands-off approach to content moderation.
Glad you are making the move. I have to say that what ameliorated Casey Newton at Platformer's concerns was pretty weak sauce, once the details surfaced.
The moment they bolted on the think ship of social media (feed, the app, notes, and following instead of subscribing) they went from being infrastructure to a platform, and this was the going to happen sooner or later.
I will add that the founders/leaders have been just awful. They really need to hire a comms team that handles things like this, and to LISTEN to them, instead of relying on their infallible libertarian instincts.
One possible reason for the lack of paid subs coming via the app is that (at least on iOS) you can’t actually manage your subscriptions in the app. 🤦🏻♂️ Presumably to avoid Apple’s cut, but it’s still friction that’s having a fair impact.
I’m sorry you built this beautiful thing and then Substack ruined it! Will follow this wherever you take it!
Hmm this is all very interesting. I read substack most days and I don’t see a single nazi-supporting publication. I have an account on X and my feed is moderated by me. I follow and see what I’m interested in. I have a TikTok account and what I watch and engage with is what I’m shown. Am I doing something wrong here? Or should people be self-moderating their SM effectively?
I work with so many different people in a single year, closely travelling together for long periods etc and sometimes I find out they hold views that would get them ‘cancelled’ yet I still have to share space with them and can’t escape being exposed to words they say that I don’t agree with. That’s real life. When I can choose I don’t associate with them, when I can’t I must.
I don’t understand why people think they should be able to control what other people are in heart and mind. And in low key activities like writing words. (As opposed to harmful physical acts for which we have laws and police to ‘moderate’).
What do people want? To control other people to a level that represents their own values? What if we just can’t agree?
Just ignore the ‘Nazi’ bastards, like I do when I have to sit next to one.
The problem about moderation is that all moderation has already been weaponized as a powerful censorship propaganda machine that killed millions by denying access to COVID and post-vaccine cures
30 Spike Protein Treatments (COVID+Vx)
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/covid-treatments
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-super-drug
Also, they censored how lethal the COVID vaccines were, to the point they are banned in Northern Europe and Florida, while Texas is suing Pfizer:
COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
- Wake up videos:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
Depopulation or EXTERMINATION? (finest quotes):
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination
So, after the global stealth coup, we are in a point that no moderation is advisable. At most, a small banner saying that the content is questionable and why, like X.com is trying.
Substack, with Gab.com and few others, are the only platforms for really free speech (X uses shadow banning)
Let's fight for Substack to remain free! I'm anti-Nazi but a realist!
16 laws we need to exit Extermination Planet
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
If we don’t succeed, prepare for their 6-sword lethal plan fully exposed here:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
Beware of what you ask for, because you are going to get it.
For example, anyone questioning the brutal murder of thousands of Palestine children by Israeli bombing is being classified as Nazi by mainstream social media:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/all-we-are-saying-is-give-peace-a
I'll admit that I love the substack app because it lets me read longform newsletters without the distraction of every other email I have to respond to (I use substack on an iPad that I don't have an email app installed on). No clue if there's a way to do that with Ghost or TinyLetter or GoblinDong or whatever people are moving to.
It's so funny that I just downloaded the app after being content with reading emails for a couple months. The only reason was to share an article and they don't even have a copy link. I have spent months, and days, agonizing over deleting apps that I've used for years because it is worse for me than good. I went through with it and I feel so good about it. It is so good for me and I don't give a f about the loss of networking, marketing opportunities, etc. I'm sick of a lot of shirt and I'm just refusing. All yalls can have it. I'm so done. I just want to read quality, interesting stuff. I show up hoping there's a better situation and I see the crap that I don't want to see. No, I can't replace my social media with social media. I'm waiting for a big change. Less crap, less creep, more something I'm too tired to articulate at the moment.
what in the fuck is happening in this comment box and who let all these weird conspiracy people vhuds in?
> My man, you’re not supposed to acknowledge actual Nazis are using your product.
This is such a strange absence of an argument masquerading as a point. Presumably Nazis use lots of products. Like I assume they use toothpaste. And Google. What power does acknowledging this have?
I think the major problem with all the AI hardware we’re seeing so far is that for some reason it’s all primarily voice controlled and I’m sorry if I’m on the subway I’m not walky-talking into my game boy asking it to do something for me (and I sure as shit don’t trust whatever Sharper Image level interaction Humane’s got going on)